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03/06/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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02:03:12 PM Start
02:04:02 PM HB268 || HB270
02:04:07 PM Subcommittee Closeout Reports
02:04:11 PM Department of Transportation and Public Facilities
02:11:10 PM Department of Fish and Game
02:22:20 PM Department of Administration
02:36:21 PM Department of Revenue
02:49:40 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to a Call of the Chair --
+= HB 268 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP; AM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 270 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Subcommittee Closeout Reports TELECONFERENCED
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 6, 2024                                                                                            
                         2:03 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:03:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
to order at 2:03 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
David  Goff, Staff,  Representative  Frank Tomaszewski;  Sue                                                                    
Stancliff, Staff, Representative  Mike Cronk; Edra Morledge,                                                                    
Staff, Representative Julie  Coulombe; Rob Carpenter, Deputy                                                                    
Director,  Legislative  Finance   Division;  Matt  Gruening,                                                                    
Staff, Representative DeLena Johnson.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 268    APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP; AM                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          HB 268 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 270    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 270 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUBCOMMITTEE CLOSEOUT REPORTS:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
    DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                          
     DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                               
     DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 268                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making capital  appropriations; making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations; making  reappropriations;                                                                    
     making  appropriations  under   art.  IX,  sec.  17(c),                                                                    
     Constitution  of   the  State   of  Alaska,   from  the                                                                    
     constitutional budget  reserve fund; and  providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 270                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:04:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^SUBCOMMITTEE CLOSEOUT REPORTS                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:04:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:04:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski asked his staff to provide the                                                                       
subcommittee report for the Department of Transportation                                                                        
and Public Facilities (DOT).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID   GOFF,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE  FRANK   TOMASZEWSKI,                                                                    
reviewed  the finance  subcommittee recommendations  for the                                                                    
Department of Transportation and  Public Facilities (copy on                                                                    
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The   House  Finance   Budget   Subcommittee  for   the                                                                    
     Department  of  Transportation  held a  total  of  four                                                                    
     meetings   and   submits  the   following   recommended                                                                    
     operating  budget  for  FY  25  to  the  House  Finance                                                                    
     Committee:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     RECOMMENDATIONS:                                                                                                           
     Fund Source: (dollars are in thousands)                                                                                    
     Unrestricted General Funds (UGF) $176,635.6                                                                                
     Designated General Funds (DGF) $70,395.6                                                                                   
     Other Funds $441,465.6                                                                                                     
     Federal Funds $78,740.7                                                                                                    
     Total $767,237.3                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Compared to  the FY 25 adjusted  base, the subcommittee                                                                    
     recommendations  represent  an  increase  of  $21,476.1                                                                    
     million  (+.13.8   percent)  in   Unrestricted  General                                                                    
     Funds,  $25.5  thousand  (+0.0 percent)  in  Designated                                                                    
     General  Funds, an  $11,238.95  million (-2.5  percent)                                                                    
     decrease  of other  funds,  as well  as  a decrease  of                                                                    
     $9,827.1 million  (-11.1 percent) in Federal  Funds for                                                                    
     a total  increase of $435.6 thousand  (0.1 percent) all                                                                    
     funds.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Positions:                                                                                                                 
     Permanent Full-time 3011                                                                                                   
     Permanent Part-time 281                                                                                                    
     Temporary 147                                                                                                              
     Total     3,439                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski clarified the total DGF increase                                                                     
was $25,500.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.    Goff    continued    reviewing    the    subcommittee                                                                    
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     BUDGET ACTION:                                                                                                             
     After reviewing  and discussing each of  the Governor's                                                                    
     proposed  transactions  in   detail,  the  subcommittee                                                                    
     adopted all items by unanimous consent.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Some of the highlights of these items are:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
         Commodity increases in all three regions to                                                                         
          adjust for inflation - $4,578.0 (UGF)                                                                                 
         Fund change from one-time COVID federal relief                                                                      
         funding to General Fund - $9,827.1 (UGF)                                                                               
         Airport lighting repairs - $626.5 (UGF)                                                                             
         Increase utilities cost - $1,309.2 (UGF)                                                                            
         Increase share of billed contract work for tunnel                                                                   
          maintenance - $2,875.0 (UGF)                                                                                          
         Alaska Marine Highway operating budget may have a                                                                   
          large budget deficit based on unknown federal                                                                         
          grant funding levels.                                                                                                 
         Create a new allocation for contracted statewide                                                                    
          snow removal- $915.5 (UGF)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     SUBCOMMITTEE AMENDMENTS:                                                                                                   
     The   Chair  set   an   amendment  deadline,   welcomed                                                                    
     amendments   from  all   members,  and   the  committee                                                                    
     received  three amendments.  After discussion,  none of                                                                    
     the amendments were adopted.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ATTACHED REPORTS                                                                                                           
     The House Finance Budget Subcommittee for the                                                                              
     Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                         
     adopted the attached reports:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
         DOT&PF Agency Totals                                                                                                
         DOT&PF Transaction Compare: Adjusted Base + to                                                                      
          House Subcom                                                                                                          
         Wordage                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:09:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson remarked the intent was to hear the                                                                            
subcommittee reports and not to go back through what the                                                                        
subcommittees had done.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  referenced  the  above  bullet  point                                                                    
specifying that the Alaska Marine  Highway System (AMHS) may                                                                    
have a large deficit. He asked  for a ballpark figure of the                                                                    
potential deficit.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Goff answered the projected budget gap for FY 25 was                                                                        
$37,958,000.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:11:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk asked his staff to provide the                                                                             
subcommittee report for the Department of Fish and Game.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SUE STANCLIFF, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE MIKE CRONK, reviewed                                                                       
the finance subcommittee recommendations for the Department                                                                     
of Fish and Game (copy on file):                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The   House  Finance   Budget   Subcommittee  for   the                                                                    
     Department  of Fish  and  Game held  a  total of  three                                                                    
     meetings,   and  submits   the  following   recommended                                                                    
     operating  budget  for  FY  25  to  the  House  Finance                                                                    
     Committee:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     RECOMMENDATIONS:                                                                                                           
     Fund Source: (dollars are in thousands)                                                                                    
     Unrestricted General Funds (UGF) $63,435.9                                                                                 
     Designated General Funds (DGF) $12,670.9                                                                                   
     Other funds $76,906.0                                                                                                      
     Federal funds $95,516.3                                                                                                    
     Total $248,529.1                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Compared to  the FY 25 Adjusted  Base, the Subcommittee                                                                    
     recommendations  represent   a  decrease   of  $1,167.1                                                                    
     million (-1.8  percent) in Unrestricted  General Funds,                                                                    
     a  decrease  of  $673.5   thousand  (-5.0  percent)  in                                                                    
     Designated  General  Funds,  an  increase  of  $5,412.1                                                                    
     million  in Other  state funds  (7.6  percent), and  an                                                                    
     increase of  $5,250.0 million (5.8 percent)  in Federal                                                                    
     funds, for  a total  increase of $8,821.5  million (3.7                                                                    
     percent) for all fund sources.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Positions:                                                                                                                 
     Permanent Full-time 843                                                                                                    
     Permanent Part-time 594                                                                                                    
     Temporary 1                                                                                                                
     Total 1,438                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     BUDGET ACTIONS:                                                                                                            
     After reviewing  and discussing each of  the Governor's                                                                    
     proposed  transactions  in   detail,  the  Subcommittee                                                                    
     adopted the Governor's proposed  FY 25 operating budget                                                                    
     without  objection, and  with  the  addition of  intent                                                                    
     language and the following modifications:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
         Commercial Fisheries: Added $150.0 to the Central                                                                   
          Region Fisheries Management  allocation in support                                                                    
          of  the   Upper  Cook  Inlet  test   fishery.  The                                                                    
          Subcommittee   also  denied   the  removal   of  a                                                                    
          Temporary Increment  for CFEC IT  systems upgrades                                                                    
          which  the Governor  proposed  to  replace with  a                                                                    
          Multiyear in  language. This  can be  addressed in                                                                    
          the full House Finance Committee.                                                                                     
         Anchorage and Fairbanks Sport Fish Hatcheries:                                                                      
          Changed  base operating  funding from  $5,000.0 of                                                                    
          UGF  to  $5,000.0  in Federal  funds  to  leverage                                                                    
          Dingell-Johnson  receipts.  The Subcommittee  also                                                                    
          modified  the fund  source of  a $350.0  Increment                                                                    
          for utilities  cost increases from UGF  to Federal                                                                    
          receipts.                                                                                                             
         Subsistence: Added $250.0 UGF and 1 PFT position                                                                    
          to  restore the  Director  of  Subsistence to  re-                                                                    
          establish   Subsistence   as   a   division.   The                                                                    
          Subcommittee   also  modified   location  of   two                                                                    
          Resource Specialist from  Wildlife Conservation to                                                                    
          Subsistence.  The positions  are  funded with  I/A                                                                    
          receipts in the amount of $300.0.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Added Intent Language:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
         It is the intent of the Legislature to restore                                                                      
          Subsistence  as a  Division, and  that the  agency                                                                    
          shall report  to the Co-chairs of  Finance and the                                                                    
          Legislative  Finance  Division  on the  status  of                                                                    
          these efforts by December 20, 2024.                                                                                   
         It is the intent of the Legislature that the                                                                        
          agency  shall  provide   a  report  detailing  the                                                                    
          activities   of  the   Marine  Mammal   Protection                                                                    
          Program and the  threatened and Endangered Species                                                                    
          Program   to   the   Co-chairs  of   Finance   and                                                                    
          Legislative  Finance  Division   by  December  20,                                                                    
          2024.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     SUBCOMMITTEE AMENDMENTS:                                                                                                   
     The   Chair  set   an   amendment  deadline,   welcomed                                                                    
     amendments   from  all   members,  and   the  committee                                                                    
     received   one  amendment;   that  amendment   was  not                                                                    
     adopted.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ATTACHED REPORTS                                                                                                           
     The House Finance Budget Subcommittee for the                                                                              
     Department of Fish and Game adopted the attached                                                                           
     reports:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         DFG Agency Totals                                                                                                   
         DFG Transaction Compare: Adjusted Base to House                                                                     
          Subcom                                                                                                                
         DFG Transaction Compare: GovAmend to House Subcom                                                                   
         DFG Wordage                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:16:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk spoke to  the importance of subsistence                                                                    
to rural  Alaska. He  thought the  absence of  a subsistence                                                                    
division and  director was a  slap in  the face. He  did not                                                                    
expect there  to be a  traditional subsistence  director. He                                                                    
remarked  "we are  far beyond  having  an anthropologist  or                                                                    
customary  and  traditional  use   person."  He  stated  the                                                                    
department needed  someone who understood the  myriad issues                                                                    
including  the introduction  of bison,  the Alaska  National                                                                    
Interest   Lands   Conservation  Act   (ANILCA),   intensive                                                                    
management,  and  working  with   tribes.  He  stressed  the                                                                    
importance of subsistence across the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:17:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  supported  intent language.  He  suggested                                                                    
adding the  words "shall  provide and  report" to  the first                                                                    
intent language to align with the second intent language.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson stated  she would  figure  out the  change                                                                    
with the permission of the subcommittee chair.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  about  the  fund source  change                                                                    
from $5  million in  general funds  to federal  receipts. He                                                                    
thought it looked like general  funds and no match. He asked                                                                    
if  there were  existing funds  or if  the subcommittee  was                                                                    
adding receipt authority to obtain federal funds.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stancliff asked for clarification on the item.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp   replied  that  he  was   looking  at                                                                    
subcommittee  item 32.  He read  from page  3 of  the Budget                                                                    
Analysis  sheet provided  by  Representative Cronk's  office                                                                    
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Fund source change to leverage available federal                                                                           
     Dingle Johnson funding for sport fish hatchery                                                                             
     operations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stancliff confirmed  that  the  increment pertained  to                                                                    
[federal] Dingle Johnson funds the department already had.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:19:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz   was  very  supportive   of  language                                                                    
regarding a  return to a  subsistence division. He  asked if                                                                    
there had been any discussion  on the benefit of restoring a                                                                    
habitat  division.  He   highlighted  issues  pertaining  to                                                                    
salmon in  the western part  of the state and  warming ocean                                                                    
temperatures. He  noted that  the previous  habitat division                                                                    
had been  removed at  the same  time as  the removal  of the                                                                    
subsistence division.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk answered that  the subcommittee had not                                                                    
discussed the idea.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  asked   if  there   had  been   any                                                                    
discussion about  invasive species  that may  intersect with                                                                    
subsistence.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stancliff   answered  there  had  been   an  at  length                                                                    
discussion,  but  she did  not  recall  a specific  attached                                                                    
amount. She noted the department was active on the issue.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan   supported  the  restoration   of  a                                                                    
division of  subsistence. She believed the  department would                                                                    
start  to talk  about habitat,  invasive species,  and other                                                                    
issues "we may have been in denial over."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Stancliff  thanked   Representative  Hannan   for  the                                                                    
comment.  One  of  the  things  that  the  subcommittee  had                                                                    
struggled with was related to  the current lack of oversight                                                                    
of those items as they pertained to subsistence.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:22:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  asked  her  staff  to  review  the                                                                    
subcommittee  report for  the  Department of  Administration                                                                    
(DOA).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
EDRA MORLEDGE, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE JULIE COULOMBE,                                                                            
reviewed the finance subcommittee recommendations for the                                                                       
Department of Administration (copy on file):                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The   House  Finance   Budget   Subcommittee  for   the                                                                    
     Department  of Administration  reviewed the  Governor's                                                                    
     FY25   budget  proposal   and   recommends  the   items                                                                    
     contained in the below details.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     RECOMMENDATIONS:                                                                                                           
     Fund Source:                                                                                                               
     Unrestricted General Funds (UGF) $87,648,100                                                                               
     Designated General Funds (DGF) $33,031,500                                                                                 
     Other Funds $199,831,500                                                                                                   
     Federal Funds $1,243,600                                                                                                   
     Total $321,754,700                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Compared to  the FY25  Adjusted Base,  the Subcommittee                                                                    
     recommendations represent:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
         An increase of $964,000 (1.1 percent) in                                                                            
          Unrestricted General Funds (UGF)                                                                                      
         An increase of $285,100 (0.9 percent) in                                                                            
          Designated General Funds (DGF)                                                                                        
         A decrease of $1,132,100 (-0.06 percent) in Other                                                                   
          Funds                                                                                                                 
         A decrease of $214,000 (-14.7 percent) in Federal                                                                   
          funds                                                                                                                 
         For a total net decrease of $97,000 (0.0 percent)                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Positions:                                                                                                                 
     Permanent Full-Time 1181                                                                                                   
     Permanent Part-Time 7                                                                                                      
     Temporary 25                                                                                                               
     Total 1213                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     BUDGET ACTION:                                                                                                             
     After holding  five meetings, reviewing  and discussing                                                                    
     each  of   the  Governor's  proposed   transactions  in                                                                    
     detail,   the  Subcommittee   adopted  the   Governor's                                                                    
     proposal with the following changes:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  subcommittee approved  a request  for $45,000  for                                                                    
     large  screen   monitors  to  assist   Payroll  Section                                                                    
     employees  with  the  need to  operate  three  programs                                                                    
     simultaneously, helping to ensure timeliness and                                                                           
    accuracy of processing payroll for State employees.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The subcommittee removed $50,000 in Other Funds for                                                                        
     recruitment and retention for the Payroll Section,                                                                         
     leaving intact $600,000 in I/A receipt authority.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
         $525,000  in Unrestricted  General Funds  (UGF) to                                                                  
          offset a 5 percent  salary increase for exempt and                                                                    
          partially exempt  employees, and an  additional 15                                                                    
          percent   for   attorneys   in   the   Office   of                                                                    
          Administrative Hearings.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
         $600,000 in I/A  Receipt Authority for recruitment                                                                  
          and retention incentives to Payroll staff.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
         $180,000  in One-time  Unrestricted General  Funds                                                                  
          (IncOTI UGF)  to move the  Payroll Section  to the                                                                    
          State Office Building.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         $1,030,000  for   cost  increases   for  Microsoft                                                                  
          licensed products.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
         Replace $214,000  Federal Grant  Receipt Authority                                                                  
          (Other  Funds)  with  Unrestricted  General  Funds                                                                    
          (UGF)  for the  Court  Appointed Special  Advocate                                                                    
          (CASA) Program.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
         $411,000 in  Unrestricted General Funds  (UGF) for                                                                  
          two  temporary Public  Guardians  and two  support                                                                    
         staff for the Office of Public Advocacy.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS:                                                                                              
         It is  recommended that  the amendment  adopted in                                                                  
          subcommittee  for  large  screen monitors  have  a                                                                    
          fund  source   change  to   Interagency  Receipts,                                                                    
          allowing the  agency to include  it in  their rate                                                                    
          structure.  Further, it  is recommended  this item                                                                    
          be designated as a One-time Item (IncOTI).                                                                            
         It is  also the intent  of the Chair  to recommend                                                                  
          the  Office of  Public  Advocacy be  moved to  the                                                                    
          Department of  Family and Community  Services, and                                                                    
          the  Division of  Motor Vehicles  be moved  to the                                                                    
          Department of Community  and Economic Development,                                                                    
          in  an  effort  to   move  the  department  toward                                                                    
          focusing   solely   on  shared   and   centralized                                                                    
          services.                                                                                                             
         It is also recommended that the Department of                                                                       
          Administration  provide  information to  the  full                                                                    
          House  Finance Committee  on the  effectiveness of                                                                    
          the payroll  incentives that were provided  in the                                                                    
          last  two fiscal  years, including  information on                                                                    
          how many  individuals were  affected, how  many of                                                                    
          those  were ultimately  recruited as  a result  of                                                                    
          the   financial   incentives,  and   provide   the                                                                    
          retention data of each  individual affected by the                                                                    
          incentives. This  would assist the  legislature in                                                                    
          determining  the appropriate  amount of  financial                                                                    
          incentives, or what other  action should be taken,                                                                    
          to  recruit and  retain employees  in the  Payroll                                                                    
          Section.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     SUBCOMMITTEE AMENDMENTS:                                                                                                   
     The   Chair  set   an   amendment  deadline,   welcomed                                                                    
     amendments   from  all   members,  and   the  committee                                                                    
     entertained  three   amendments,  two  of   which  were                                                                    
     adopted as noted above.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ATTACHED REPORTS:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The House Finance Budget Subcommittee for the                                                                              
     Department of Administration adopted the attached                                                                          
     reports:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         Agency Totals                                                                                                       
         Transaction Compare: Adjusted Base to House                                                                         
          Subcommittee                                                                                                          
         Transaction Compare: Governor's Amended to House                                                                    
          Subcommittee                                                                                                          
         Wordage                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:28:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  asked about the  $50,000 reduction                                                                    
from the  governor's request  for recruitment  and retention                                                                    
incentives. He  looked at the  increment adding  funding for                                                                    
large  screen   monitors.  He  asked  for   details  on  the                                                                    
subcommittee dialogue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe   answered   that   one   of   the                                                                    
subcommittee  members  had  met   separately  with  the  DOA                                                                    
payroll manager and had asked  what one thing would help the                                                                    
person  do the  job.  The answer  had  been larger  screens.                                                                    
Currently  the manager  was working  on one  22-inch screen,                                                                    
which was  challenging and time consuming.  She gathered the                                                                    
screens had been found in  storage and given to payroll. She                                                                    
relayed that the subcommittee member  had asked her if there                                                                    
was  any way  to provide  the screens  to make  payroll more                                                                    
efficient. She  remarked there were questions  as to whether                                                                    
the  payroll  incentives  were working  and  being  put  out                                                                    
correctly. She thought  the tools people needed  to do their                                                                    
jobs  were  more  important;  therefore,   she  had  made  a                                                                    
decrement  to  the  incentives  in  order  to  pay  for  the                                                                    
screens.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson looked  at  the  5 percent  salary                                                                    
increase  for  exempt  and partially  exempt  employees.  He                                                                    
asked if it  was in anticipation of a bill  that may require                                                                    
a pay hike.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe asked  if Representative  Josephson                                                                    
was referring to the $525,000 increment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson responded affirmatively.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  responded that it stemmed  from a 5                                                                    
percent  increase  for  attorneys  the  previous  year.  She                                                                    
explained  that  DOA  did  not correct  the  amount  it  was                                                                    
charging other departments for the  services and the mistake                                                                    
had been  identified too far  into the year.  The department                                                                    
helped school districts and municipalities  and did not want                                                                    
to  throw  everyone  for a  loop  mid-year;  therefore,  the                                                                    
department was requesting UGF to  pay the difference and the                                                                    
increment would be  adjusted the next year.  She deferred to                                                                    
the Legislative Finance Division for more detail.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:31:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROB   CARPENTER,   DEPUTY  DIRECTOR,   LEGISLATIVE   FINANCE                                                                    
DIVISION,   explained   that   the   agency   had   received                                                                    
considerable increases  the previous year (a  combination of                                                                    
20 percent  for its attorneys),  which caused the  Office of                                                                    
Administrative Hearings to increase  its rates to compensate                                                                    
for the  salary increase. He  explained that the  office had                                                                    
raised rates  from approximately $230  to $270, which  was a                                                                    
fairly  impactful increase  to  agencies  being served.  The                                                                    
[$525,000] increment was a way to soften the blow.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson thought  the  salary increase  the                                                                    
previous year merely  used more UGF. He did not  know why it                                                                    
would require a rate adjustment.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Carpenter  answered that the  attorney pay  increase had                                                                    
been made across the board  and the Office of Administrative                                                                    
Hearings had not received any  money in the fiscal note. The                                                                    
agency generally billed out its services.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  stated   they  were  not  typical                                                                    
employees. He  understood that the Office  of Administrative                                                                    
Hearings  did things  like workers'  compensation deals.  He                                                                    
asked  for  an  example  of why  those  attorneys  could  be                                                                    
treated differently than a prosecutor.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Carpenter  answered that  he  could  not say  why  they                                                                    
should be treated differently; it was a policy decision.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon lauded the  subcommittee for finding $45,000                                                                    
to affect  a major change  for processing payroll  for state                                                                    
employees.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:33:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan thanked  Representative Coulombe  and                                                                    
stated  she had  enjoyed  serving on  the subcommittee.  She                                                                    
referenced the  language about moving  the Office  of Public                                                                    
Advocacy  [to   the  Department  of  Family   and  Community                                                                    
Services] and the  Division of Motor Vehicles  (DMV) [to the                                                                    
Department    of    Commerce,   Community    and    Economic                                                                    
Development].  She  asked  if there  had  been  any  similar                                                                    
dialogue  or  consideration  given to  [moving]  the  Public                                                                    
Defender Agency  in order to  limit the scope of  DOA's work                                                                    
to a shared services duty.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe  answered   she   was  trying   to                                                                    
incrementally   suggest  things.   The  recommendation   had                                                                    
started with  the Office of  Public Advocacy.  She explained                                                                    
that the commissioner had been  clear the office needed more                                                                    
support. She  had reached out  to [Department of  Family and                                                                    
Community Services]  Commissioner Kim  Kovol who  had stated                                                                    
the office  would fit better  in her department.  She agreed                                                                    
that the  Public Defender  Agency likely  did need  to move,                                                                    
but she had selected two  obvious agencies to include in her                                                                    
recommendation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk asked  if there  had been  any request                                                                    
for  additional  money  for retaining  workers  at  DMV.  He                                                                    
highlighted that Tok was the  first place across the border,                                                                    
and it was  inundated with traffic. He remarked  that it was                                                                    
difficult to retain employees there.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  recalled the department  had stated                                                                    
the vacancy rates were low  and stable. The subcommittee did                                                                    
not  receive   a  breakdown   pertaining  to   specific  DMV                                                                    
locations.  She added  that the  department did  not request                                                                    
any funding specifically for employee retention for DMV.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:36:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATT   GRUENING,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE  DELENA   JOHNSON,                                                                    
reviewed  the finance  subcommittee recommendations  for the                                                                    
Department of Revenue (copy on file):                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The   House  Finance   Budget   Subcommittee  for   the                                                                    
     Department of  Revenue held a  total of  three meetings                                                                    
     and submits the  following recommended operating budget                                                                    
     for FY 25 to the House Finance Committee:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     RECOMMENDATIONS:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Source: (dollars are in thousands)                                                                                    
     Unrestricted General Funds (UGF) $32,411.9                                                                                 
     Designated General Funds (DGF) $2,456.3                                                                                    
     Other Funds $339,419.9                                                                                                     
     Federal Funds $89,356.5                                                                                                    
     Total $463,644.6                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Compared   to   the   FY    25   adjusted   base,   the                                                                    
     subcommittee's  recommendations  represent an  increase                                                                    
     of  $2,662.3  million  (+8.9 percent)  in  unrestricted                                                                    
     general  funds,  $5,605.1  million  (+1.7  percent)  in                                                                    
     other funds,  $560.0 thousand (+.6 percent)  in federal                                                                    
     funds, as  well as  a decrease  of $13.4  thousand (-.5                                                                    
     percent) in  designated general funds. Compared  to the                                                                    
     Governor's   proposed  FY   25   amended  budget,   the                                                                    
     subcommittee's  recommendations  represent an  increase                                                                    
     of  $133.5  thousand   (+.4  percent)  in  unrestricted                                                                    
     general funds and a decrease $1,359.0 million (-.4                                                                         
     percent) in other funds for an overall decrease of                                                                         
     $1,225.5 million (-.3 percent) in all funds.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Positions:                                                                                                                 
     Permanent Full-time 836                                                                                                    
     Permanent Part-time 24                                                                                                     
     Temporary 23                                                                                                               
     Total 883                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     BUDGET ACTION HIGHLIGHTS:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     After reviewing  and discussing each of  the Governor's                                                                    
     proposed  transactions in  detail, the  following items                                                                    
     were amended,  added, or  removed by  unanimous consent                                                                    
     of the subcommittee (dollars are in thousands):                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
         Added   funding  to   support  a   long-term  care                                                                  
          assistant   ombudsman   position  ($133.5   GF/MH)                                                                    
          within  the Alaska  Mental Health  Trust Authority                                                                    
          (AMHTA).  This  recommendation  by AMHTA  was  not                                                                    
          included in the Governor's budget.                                                                                    
         Partially   funded  the   Alaska  Permanent   Fund                                                                  
          Corporation's  (APFC)  $100.0  travel  request  at                                                                    
          $30.0.  The  subcommittee's   reduction  of  $70.0                                                                    
          reflects  the  travel  costs associated  with  the                                                                    
          Anchorage satellite office.                                                                                           
         Denied  APFC's  request  for $60.0  in  lease  and                                                                  
          technology  support  costs   associated  with  the                                                                    
          Anchorage satellite office.                                                                                           
         Partially  funded  APFC's  request  of  $50.0  for                                                                  
          furniture,  supplies, and  equipment at  $5.0. The                                                                    
          reduction of $45.0  reflects costs associated with                                                                    
          the Anchorage satellite office.                                                                                       
         Partially funded  APFC's request  for a  6 percent                                                                  
          merit increase and  corresponding benefit costs at                                                                    
          3  percent  (The  $920.0 request  was  reduced  to                                                                    
          $506.0).                                                                                                              
         Partially  funded  APFC's  incentive  compensation                                                                  
          request of $915.0 at  $445.0. The remaining $445.0                                                                    
          will   be  targeted   at  operations   staff,  who                                                                    
          currently receive no incentive compensation.                                                                          
         Reduced  incentive  compensation  in  APFC's  base                                                                  
          budget  for  investment   staff  by  $300.0.  This                                                                    
          action  still  leaves   $2,500.0  in  APFC's  base                                                                    
          budget for  incentive compensation  for investment                                                                    
          staff plus the $445.0 in new incentives for                                                                           
          operations staff.                                                                                                     
         Added intent language specifying that APFC should                                                                   
          not  establish or  maintain  new office  locations                                                                    
          without corresponding budget  increments for those                                                                    
          purposes  and that  APFC submit  a  report to  the                                                                    
          Legislature by  December 20th, 2024,  that details                                                                    
          actual  expenditures   to  date  related   to  the                                                                    
          Anchorage satellite office.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     SUBCOMMITTEE AMENDMENTS:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The Chair set an amendment deadline, welcomed                                                                              
     amendments from all members, and the committee                                                                             
     received one amendment, which was not offered.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ATTACHED REPORTS:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The House Finance Budget Subcommittee for the                                                                              
    Department of Revenue adopted the attached reports:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
         DOR Agency Totals                                                                                                   
         DOR Transaction Compare: FY25 Adjusted Base to                                                                      
          House Subcom                                                                                                          
         DOR Transaction Compare: FY25 Gov Amend to House                                                                    
          Subcom                                                                                                                
         Wordage                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:41:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp asked if  the furniture budget had been                                                                    
reduced from $50,000 to $5,000.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gruening responded affirmatively.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp asked if  the subcommittee had included                                                                    
intent language that the department  needed to shop at Value                                                                    
Village.  He  remarked  that  $5,000 would  not  go  far  to                                                                    
furnish an office.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  replied  that the  subcommittee  had  not                                                                    
included that intent language.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  looked at the  partial funding  of $445,000                                                                    
for the Alaska Permanent  Fund Corporation's (APFC) original                                                                    
request   of  $915,000   for   incentive  compensation.   He                                                                    
referenced   above  language   in   the  budget   highlights                                                                    
specifying that the remaining $445,000  would be targeted at                                                                    
operations   staff  who   currently  receive   no  incentive                                                                    
compensation. He  asked if  the language  had been  added by                                                                    
the  subcommittee.  He  presumed  it had  not  been  in  the                                                                    
governor's budget.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gruening  answered  that the  $445,000  for  operations                                                                    
staff  had  been  broken  out of  the  original  request  of                                                                    
$915,000.  The remainder  would  go to  investment staff  as                                                                    
incentive  compensation.  He  noted the  $915,000  had  been                                                                    
included in the governor's budget.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  looked at the  denial of $60,000  for lease                                                                    
and technology  support costs associated with  the Anchorage                                                                    
satellite  office. He  asked for  the  rationale behind  the                                                                    
denial.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gruening  answered that  the Anchorage  satellite office                                                                    
had been  established outside the  legislative appropriation                                                                    
process. He relayed  there had been meetings  held where the                                                                    
co-chairs had denied approval for  APFC to move forward with                                                                    
the Anchorage office outside  the appropriation process, but                                                                    
APFC had  gone forward with  the office anyway.  He believed                                                                    
the  intent  was to  safeguard  the  legislature's power  of                                                                    
appropriation and  ability to approve  expenditures proposed                                                                    
by the APFC board.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:44:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson thanked  the Co-Chair  Johnson for                                                                    
her work on the DOR subcommittee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson clarified  that the  committee appreciated                                                                    
the work  by the investment  staff at APFC.  She underscored                                                                    
there was  no intention  to indicate they  were not  doing a                                                                    
great job.  She relayed that  the $2.5 million  remaining in                                                                    
the  base budget  for incentive  compensation was  more than                                                                    
adequate  to   fully  incentivize  and  reward   staff.  She                                                                    
reported that  APFC's investment  staff earned  $1.6 million                                                                    
in incentive compensation  in FY 22, $1.7 million  in FY 23,                                                                    
and  $2 million  in  bonuses had  been paid  in  FY 24  with                                                                    
$800,000  set  to  lapse to  the  Earnings  Reserve  Account                                                                    
(ERA).  The incentive  compensation  had  never exceeded  $2                                                                    
million and  the $2.5 million  remaining in the  base should                                                                    
be more  than adequate.  She noted that  if for  some reason                                                                    
the funds  were insufficient,  a supplemental  request would                                                                    
be  appropriate.   She  noted  that  APFC   had  substantial                                                                    
flexibility  in  the  ability to  shift  funds  around.  She                                                                    
stated  that in  a year  when  the board  established a  new                                                                    
office   outside   of   the   appropriation   process,   the                                                                    
subcommittee   action  reflected   prudent  budgeting.   She                                                                    
reiterated that  the subcommittee  recommendation was  not a                                                                    
reflection on the investment staff.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:46:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin looked at  the DOT narrative and noted                                                                    
a  typo in  the  addition  of the  fund  sources. The  total                                                                    
should read $767,237,500.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  noted that  Representative  Tomaszewski's                                                                    
office could make the correction.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HB  268  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  270  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson reviewed  the schedule  for the  following                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:49:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 2:49 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DOT HFIN SubComm Closeouts 030624.pdf HFIN 3/6/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268
DFG HFIN SubComm Closeout 030624.pdf HFIN 3/6/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268
DOR HFIN SubComm Closeout 030624.pdf HFIN 3/6/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268
DOA HFIN SubComm Closeout 030624.pdf HFIN 3/6/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268